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Re: Ed Steer this morning


Utah House stamps gold, silver as legal tender



By Lee Davidson


The Salt Lake Tribune


First published Mar 04 2011 12:14PM
Updated Mar 5, 2011 12:04AM


It may not fold as conveniently as dollar bills, but the Utah House took a first step Friday to recognize gold and silver as legal tender.


It voted 47-26 to pass HB317 by Rep. Brad Galvez, R-West Haven, and sent it to the Senate. The measure would recognize as legal tender gold and silver coins issued by the federal government — not just their face value, but also their value in gold and silver or to a collector.


It also would order the state to study whether Utah should establish an alternative form of legal tender, such as one backed by silver and gold.


“This is a step in preparedness, a step in security,” Galvez said, “that allows us to be able to help hold up our economy as the dollar continues to shrink.”


Rep. Ken Ivory, R-West Jordan, said, for example, that a 1960s John F. Kennedy half-dollar coin — 90 percent silver — would have bought three gallons of gasoline with its face value in the mid-60s. But the value of the silver in it today would buy about five gallons of gas, while the face value of the coin would buy only a fraction of a gallon.


Ivory said the bill is “a way for us to preserve for the citizens of Utah … the purchasing power of the money they hold.”


The bill would not require anyone to accept gold and silver coins as legal tender. It also would exempt the sale of such U.S. coins from state sales taxes and from capital-gains taxes.


Rep. Steve Eliason, R-Sandy, a certified public accountant, opposed the bill, saying it could create tax loopholes. He said people seeking to escape capital-gains taxes on other assets — such as gold bullion — might be able to do so by selling it for coins under the bill.


http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51364301-76/silver-gold-legal-tender.html.csp


Cheers Guys!


J




over 13 years ago
Re: Criminal and Civil Probes

That is an excellent point hobbers. In terms of [fairly] recent activity, it was the Southern District Court that found in favor of Bloomberg against the Federal Reserve System in Bloomies FOIA suit. The case is still tied-up in appeals, with the Fed already having lost the first round.


I think the term "unprecedented" may even be appropriate here ?


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7CC61ZsieV4


Joaquin

over 14 years ago
Re: Criminal and civil probes under way into Morgan silver trading (update)

Hi Coach.


The SEC charged CountryWide Ceo Angelo Mozilo with both fraud and insider trading back in June 09. The case is ongoing, as is a federal criminal investigation which is now in the grand jury stage. AIG Ceo Hank Greenberg skated with a $15MM settlement against SEC charges that he intentionally mismanaged AIG accounting transactions.


For what it's worth, and to underscore gildage' speculation on an internal "power struggle", I listened to a recent James Traficant interview wherein he claimed he is receiving correspondence from a growing faction of DOJ personnel that are fed-up with the BS.


If the GS & JPM investigations are simply political window dressing, it seems to me they would have been launched/publicized much closer to the elections instead of 7 months out. In my opinion, if there is no movement on these investigations by November, they will be of little help to the current administration when mid-term ballots are cast.


Short-term bullish these investigations, but longer term very cautiously optimistic .


Joaquin

over 14 years ago
Re: Gold Manipulation Goes Mainstream

I poked around today and found a Reuters article referencing the CFTC metals hearing. It was published back on March 25.


Note: The writer only devoted 1 [disparaging] line to GATA's presentation:


"The CFTC heard from a group of precious-metals "bugs" who believe governments and banks artificially depress prices."


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62O37920100325


No Respect!

over 14 years ago
PM suspends public gold trading

A dose of regulatory Viagra for the troubled Vietnamese Dong.


Cheers J


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http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=02BUS010110


PM suspends public gold trading


(01-01-2010)


HA NOI – All public gold trading floors will be banned effective March 31, 2010, under an order by Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung on Wednesday.


The order requires all gold trading floors to be shut down and all domestic investor accounts terminated by that date, after which time the State Bank of Viet Nam will assume oversight of all trades in the precious metal.


The order also requires the central bank to suspend all 2006 regulations allowing gold trading via accounts abroad.


Jewellery businesses will still be allowed to sell gold jewellery, but the State Bank will draft new regulations limiting how gold can be traded in this form.


After over two years of unregulated trading in gold, the Government has decided to clamp down on what has become a chaotic market driven by speculative behaviour. Gold trading is also undercutting official efforts to regulate monetary policy and stabilise the economy.


"The shutdown is necessary, but had it come sooner in 2008, the costs could have been reduced," said a representative of the Viet Nam Association of Financial Investors (VAFI). "Many trading centres have been set up, taking a large investment of capital to build up staff and infrastructure."


"The shutdown order comes to me like a shock," said investor Phan Anh Ha. "I feel like I did when the authorities banned people from dancing while singing karaoke."


Investors would lose an investment channel, but the State would have one less factor to regulate, said Nguyen Thanh Toai, deputy director of Asia Commercial Bank, the nation’s first credit institution to establish a gold trading floor in Viet Nam.


Black-market gold trading in the past had rattled the authorities, Toai said, which is why they moved the illegal gold trading from the dark alleys into the light of lawful gold trading centres in which it could be monitored and regulated. But now, he said, they were returning it again to the darkness.


Another director of a HCM City based gold trading centre, who asked to remain anonymous, worried that investors might now illegally set up accounts abroad to trade gold online as they used to do before gold trading centres were set up in Viet Nam, causing more dollars to drain out of the domestic economy.


Investors were also likely to seek gold on the black market, where dealers set prices themselves. This happened on November 11 last year, when the domestic gold price spiked to a record high of VND29.3 million and numerous investors suffered heavy losses.


"We are running a market economy, so if we apply too many administrative measures, I personally don’t think it’s good," said Tran Quoc Quynh, a senior official of the Viet Nam Gold Trading Association and a former general director of Vietcombank.


"Investment always makes a balance between profit and risk. That’s their business. Policymakers are just to create legal corridor for them to run," said Quynh.


The State Bank of Viet Nam had submitted to the Government two proposals for better managing gold trading centres, inlcuding closing them down or raising required security deposit rates to 100 per cent.


The resulting shutdown order will affect about 20 gold trading bourses.


There are centres operated by banks, requiring investors to open accounts at the bank; bourses set up by credit institutions or securities companies, requiring investors to deposit money directly with the organisation operating the bourse; and centres allowing institutions and investors to trade gold for gold abroad using US dollars.


Investors have profited from heavily leveraged trading through these centres, and are required to pay a security deposit of only 7 per cent of the total net asset value of their trades, with the remaining 93 per cent backed by the bank.


A called "belief" encouraged investors to bet on the bourses.


Meanwhile, gold bourses were not governed by specific regulations and no single ministry or agency was assigned to oversee their operations.


Illegal short-selling has also occurred at jewellery shops, where gold pledged by a third party was physically sold with the intention of buying it back at a later date before it was returned to the owner.


While State Bank of Viet Nam governor Nguyen Van Giau was not available for comment yesterday, sources suggested that gold bourses would return once the central bank completed a more precise legal framework for them. — VNS

almost 15 years ago
Re: Gold Support - USD Resistance Zones


On Monday Dec 21st , Warren Bevan wrote: "I think we will see a sharp move to test $1,075 to mark the low". We got that brief intra-low the next day Dec 22nd. I moved with the Eastern central banks on this pullback and diversified a few more USD's into precious metals and related stocks (see ECU).


Cheers J


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Christmas Comes Early For Precious Metals Buyers


By Warren Bevan


Gold continued to consolidate, but only fell 0.24% for the week. You’ve got to love the Chinese coming out on http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=2293716" onclick="window.open(this.href); return false;">December 2 saying investors should be wary of a gold bubble forming. In hindsight it just so happens that was THE day gold topped out. Have no fear though, we are only halfway to the top of this current up-move. Gold’s just taking a rest for the holidays. If you’re worried, don’t be. Don’t bother to look at any charts or price quotes until the new year is officially rung in. You deserve the peace of mind!


The RSI remains above the important 40 level after bouncing off it exactly mid week. The up-trend that began mid-August is still holding. Expect a nerve-wracking move below that line for perhaps a day or two, but more likely a matter of hours.


The Fibonacci retracement levels are looking to be roughly containing the gold price now and I don’t think there will be any move out of those levels for long. The moving averages are all heading higher still but the price is slightly below the 50 day moving average. Support is shown in $25 increments. I think we will see a sharp move to test $1,075 to mark the low.


MACD is still bearish and about to head into negative ground. Slow STO remains in the area where good things begin, and flat. Enjoy this early Christmas present and order yourself up some physical metals with what’s left of your Christmas budget. It’s the gift that keeps giving you more money.




almost 15 years ago
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